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FIREJKP22 All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:588 Points:243,700 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 7:23:20 AM Ignore FIREJKP22 Report Abuse FACT: In the '40s Henry Ford used hemp-based plastic in the body of his automobiles & those same cars were fueled with hemp-based ethanol. OPEC is afraid of Ethanol..Do not let Voo Doo Lies get to you!..You are an American!..Pay for American Made Fuel..NOT Middle Eastern Oil. Remember what the Middle East did to us on 9/11/01. Or did you forget that already?

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FACT: In the '40s Henry Ford used hemp-based plastic in the body of his automobiles & those same cars were fueled with hemp-based ethanol.

OPEC is afraid of Ethanol..Do not let Voo Doo Lies get to you!..You are an American!..Pay for American Made Fuel..NOT Middle Eastern Oil. Remember what the Middle East did to us on 9/11/01. Or did you forget that already?

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FIREJKP22 All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:588 Points:243,700 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2011 7:51:15 AM Ignore FIREJKP22 Report Abuse rick_evans, if you would read into it, you'd see that the 1940's statement was made to tell you that vehicles have been made to run with ethanol since day 1. If you'd actually run more than 10% Ethanol, you'd realize the gains in power with running the fuel. Don't bash it until you try it.
rick_evans Champion Author Boston Posts:3,711 Points:1,030,970 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2011 4:09:57 AM Ignore rick_evans Report Abuse "In the '40s Henry Ford used hemp-based plastic in the body of his automobiles & those same cars were fueled with hemp-based ethanol." I'll consider your advice when I want to make my '07 Toyota run like a 1940 Ford.
James48843 Veteran Author Michigan Posts:258 Points:156,495 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 10:46:22 PM Ignore James48843 Report Abuse 91firebrand- SUPPORTING Coburn and Koch Industries? HELL NO! That's exactly why we should SUPPORT ethanol. Koch wants to kill Americans and earn evil money from Satin. Coburn is evil. Koch is the anti-Christ. [Edited by: James48843 at 3/29/2011 11:47:29 PM EST]
91Firebird Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,586 Points:178,470 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 6:28:20 PM Ignore 91Firebird Report Abuse And it's certainly not replacing gas. In fact, ethanol might be limited soon....
91Firebird Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,586 Points:178,470 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 6:24:43 PM Ignore 91Firebird Report Abuse But I use the same amount of gas either way. I can buy E0 and go ~400 miles, or buy E10 and go ~360 miles. I'm not saving gas, but I am filling up more often. No thanks. The problem is we can't grow enough ethanol to run the country. A better idea is CNG. It's cleaner burning than E85, cheaper, and we have several Trillion(!) barrel equivalents available in North America.
FIREJKP22 All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:588 Points:243,700 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 9:31:33 AM Ignore FIREJKP22 Report Abuse Ethanol is replacing gas. Those people like me who fill their vehicles with ethanol rather than gasoline are cutting down on the amount of oil that the United States purchases. FACT! OPEC is afraid of this. Just as I would be afraid if something more efficient, and cheaper was put on the market to replace a product in which I offered.
Bus936 Champion Author Lexington Posts:16,434 Points:3,218,055 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 8:03:40 AM Ignore Bus936 Report Abuse Why should OPEC be afraid of ethanol as all it does is make us use more gas thereby using more oil. Ethanol milage is far less than whole gas milage.
goldseeker Champion Author West Virginia Posts:19,530 Points:2,716,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2011 7:26:44 AM Ignore goldseeker Report Abuse We also had the Arab oil embargo which brought America long gas lines and rationing in some areas. Another oil embargo would certainly bring America to its knees.