garthfanok1

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:45:36 AM
check it once, check it twice.........
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mandoid

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:43:00 AM
CA environmental laws coming soon to state like yours.
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MattManIA

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:42:53 AM
What a bunch of morons!!!
Later in the article, it mentions that those who sued to stop this want Chevron to keep paying the idled construction workers in the meantime. ANY semblance of rationality went out the window!!!
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twobroke61

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:35:32 AM
and now who is going too pay for this judges rule it will be us of course just like everything else we the people get stuck with the bill
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vibdata

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:05:42 AM
Go Solar. Go Geothermal. Go Wind. Go Electric.
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FASTR1

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:04:09 AM
I bet the judge is a tree hugging liberal democrat, with deep pockets filled full of Obama stimulus bribes, errr, I mean grants.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 3:03:36 AM
Okay, let's strangle them even more. As if we don't have enough problems paying for energy as it is. The EnviroNazis won't be happy until every last shred of mankind is wiped off the face of the earth. In spite of the dire straits that California finds itself in these days, these idiots want to heap even more problems on the plate. Sure wish I was an independently wealthy SFO liberal with nothing better to do than to make life even harder for the people who actually work for a living.
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gass12

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:52:32 AM
So what is next.
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Kamakani

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:52:13 AM
Let the environmentalists pay for it
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carlsonguitars

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:51:19 AM
wooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooo!!! VICTORY IS OURS AT LAST!!!! :-)
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:50:48 AM
Can they appeal the ruling?
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BlkynB

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:48:41 AM
The greenies screw the broke "Golden State" yet again.
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:38:58 AM
A new impact report and a new permit? How many millions will that cost?
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:38:31 AM
If all humans on the planet were gone then the environmentalists should be very happy, but then they would not be on the planet!
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:30:27 AM
More judicial activism.
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915Chief

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:28:39 AM
more bureaucracy....is it any wonder why gas costs so much?
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Slyguy1060

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:21:27 AM
Another example of idiots running the government.
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saveongasNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:20:39 AM
Well said bobdec
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SurreySidekick

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:16:40 AM
Way to Go..... hope to see the day when gas is not require in our daily lives and those OPEC guys switching over to sell Sand instead LOL !!!!
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findcheap

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:15:42 AM
this ruling is late; think of the money previously invested
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:14:38 AM
it is this kind of backward thinking by our judiciary (or influence = money talks)that is a BIG reason why we are in the economic mess we are in
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blink25

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:06:50 AM
and why....... big oil and us government for some ill begotten reason would rather not see this happen, to heck with the environmentalists,,,,,just a front for the real truth
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rwm1

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:06:26 AM
Good! This is good news. As has already been reported we already have enough oil in reserve. And hopefully if electric cars, wind turbines and solar energy to mention a few hold their promises, we'll only need oil to make plastics. And even then I'm sure there are synthetic alternatives.
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RLH68

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 2:05:31 AM
jadeusa, sad, but true.
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:50:52 AM
Long term this is bad news. The last refinery built in the US was in 1976, and now there can't be an upgrade of an older one. Better get out the bikes and start walking to work. Might be healthy but sure does push the US back closer to a 3rd world country rather than as leader in the world.
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bosrs

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:25:47 AM
what????
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applejoe

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:23:40 AM
way to go tree huggers, I'll be coming to your house to live since nine will be taken away.
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bobdec

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:22:48 AM
Another stupid ruling bu a liberal Judge
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007HS

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:22:41 AM
This is what happens when the Yuppie NIMBYs take over. This was a very depressed area around this refinery in the late 70's. you could buy properties around the refinery for less than $30k. This is what happens when an area becomes THE high rent district. NIMBYS will save us from a lot of Obongo's low efficiency solar/wind projects. This area isn't to far away from the Northern CA wind farms of the 70's-80's at Vacaville on US 80 and Altamont Pass on US 580... The environmentalists and the end of TAX CREDITS halted these projects. Will DEJAVU happen again when these projects aren't financially viable?
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Michaelsz06

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:19:16 AM
What I want to know is when hunting season opens on Environmental wacko's and insane liberal judges that are always from California.
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:19:09 AM
107 years old!! I will bet that the pollution controls are 'grand-fathered'.
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MUSTANGSRUS

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:15:18 AM
Just what we need - fewer refineries. The EPA seems bound and determined to put us back using the horse and buggy.
[Edited by: mustangus at 7/3/2009 2:17:11 AM EST]
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alaric76

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:11:22 AM
oh great, stop a refinery expansion. brilliant.
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furiousfowl

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:10:50 AM
this isnt good, will cause gas to go up
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Toppers

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 1:03:49 AM
Don'tcha just love government controls???
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ach

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:58:36 AM
More red tape to wade through and then pass the cost onto us.
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pbc2001

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:53:08 AM
Chevron must halt Richmond expansion
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no25

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:52:58 AM
Boy Oh Boy
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LuvEd08

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:49:32 AM
Halt, but not kill the upgrade.. ok
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EOCSSEABEE

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:41:24 AM
All this means is we will buy more foreign oil. Playing right into obama's hand
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BartBuzz

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:39:58 AM
More proof that we've allowed the environmental extremists too much influence.
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spike1zz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:38:00 AM
Get out of the way tree huggers
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Splinter

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:34:32 AM
I thought the primary bottle neck in the supply chain was our inability to refine crude oil at a high enough rate.
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96sc1

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El Paso
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:28:36 AM
I have long wondered just what the source of environmentalist's power is.
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:27:54 AM
It is Obama's fault. Let's blame him.
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jimgraham

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Akron
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:27:22 AM
<<<<< "My feeling is, out of crisis comes opportunity, perhaps the opportunity for both sides to agree to monitor the air," Rogers said. "And if it's dirtier, then Chevron would not get to run the heavier, dirtier crude. They wouldn't have to rip out the machinery and scrap it, they just couldn't use the dirtier crude." >>>>>
I think Chevron SHOULD take advantage of this "opportunity" - RIP OUT THE MACHINERY AND SEND IT TO KOREA OR SCRAP IT!!!! - Let California gas prices be higher than in Alaska....
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swartzrora

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:25:55 AM
Don't you just love these environmentalists? Time for tea anyone? Party that is.
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250FORD

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:25:40 AM
Rudy I'll put money on the fact that the "tree huggers" got money from Chevron.
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djoumy

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:22:13 AM
they just stop them making biggest bucks.
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Rudy

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:20:25 AM
thanks to the tree huggers, Chevron gets another excuse to raise the prices. We should make the tree huggers by all their gasolin from onlyh Chevron.
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Chasms

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:20:10 AM
"Another move by environmentalists to restrict gasoline production in the US resulting in higher prices for all of us. If I was running Chevron, I would shut down the refinery (making the environmentalists even happier), lay off all workers at the plant, and stop selling gasoline or diesel in that county."
AMEN, brotha!!
There's only ONE problem! If you did exactly as spelled out above, these SAME 'Environmentalists' would be frantically DIGGING for =something else= to CRY LIKE A BABY about!
I can already 'hear' them complaining that Exxon/Mobil's prices are too high compared to what their brother/sister pays at a "Chevron" station in the county next to them! "Why can't we have CHEVRON stations in my county!?!"
I have a really 'tasty' SUCKER for _every_ "Special Interest Group" in the U. S. that drives =our= prices/taxes continually -HIGHER-!! They can simply F.O.A.D.!! And that =includes= the EX 'Price Is Right' host!!!!!
[Edited by: Chasms at 7/3/2009 1:27:08 AM EST]
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MarMacMal

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 12:19:07 AM
And California is broke because....
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