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Clean Diesels bring a mess of decisions

Detnews.com -- By Brian J. O'Connor

A clean diesel car can be good for the environment -- but will it end up cleaning out your wallet? With mileage that can be as much as one-third better than comparable gasoline engines -- hitting more than 40 mpg on the highway -- clean diesel engines can take a big bite out of your car's carbon footprint.

The new diesels are much improved over the models that appeared in the late 1980s, with lowered tailpipe emissions and quieter performance that refutes diesels' reputation as noisy stinkpots. But the premium cost of diesel models and diesel fuel mean they also can take a bite out of your wallet.

In many cases, it can take years for drivers to see real savings from the improved mileage of a diesel, notes John O'Dell, senior editor of the Green Car Advisor at Edmund

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nurdco Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:3,826 Points:718,055 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 4:06:27 AM Ignore nurdco Report Abuse Industry has MAXed their profit despite the ease of Diesel production fpr the trucking industry needs
fratt Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:4,949 Points:1,671,205 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 4:04:15 AM Ignore fratt Report Abuse The cost is still way to high.
twobroke61 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,453 Points:622,760 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:59:06 AM Ignore twobroke61 Report Abuse diesels are the way too go if you travel alot of miles but they also cost more too maintain and are more expensive too buy
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,293 Points:883,055 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:55:43 AM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse What good is better mileage if the price of diesel is near 50 cents per gallon more than regular? This negates any savings on mileage. It wasn't long ago when diesel fuel cost less than regular.
ArmydudeNC Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,203 Points:403,085 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:52:35 AM Ignore ArmydudeNC Report Abuse New diesels are awesome.
HA4CNN All-Star Author Toronto Posts:991 Points:596,340 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:41:54 AM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse A diesel makes sense if you have a long commute not other wise.
Hunter724 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,215 Points:671,195 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:38:56 AM Ignore Hunter724 Report Abuse Most people cannot afford the extra cost $$$$$$...
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,155 Points:1,173,480 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:36:49 AM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse It needs to be cost effective
BigDogOH Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,547 Points:832,390 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:31:49 AM Ignore BigDogOH Report Abuse deisle is tried and true. hybrid and elecric are still getting bugs out
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:11,565 Points:1,175,155 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:28:46 AM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse And diesels can burn BioDiesel. Then they smell like chicken (or is that "taste like"). Diesels are easily converted to run on Liquified Natural Gas (LNG). LNG is the cleanest of all organic fuels. Drawback: Diesels are expensive to service.
boutmuet All-Star Author Orange County Posts:862 Points:291,360 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:26:41 AM Ignore boutmuet Report Abuse Hybrids are just as expensive. A prius costs about the same as a Jetta TDI.
EXTREMESNOW Champion Author Medford Posts:4,527 Points:952,760 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:08:25 AM Ignore EXTREMESNOW Report Abuse You pay one way or the other!
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:3,005 Points:580,875 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:08:20 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Each has to decide what's most important to them.
PhilMils Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,141 Points:453,750 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 3:00:15 AM Ignore PhilMils Report Abuse A better thing to do would be to seek ways to get off oil.
computernut2008 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,664 Points:401,400 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:46:21 AM Ignore computernut2008 Report Abuse I detest diesel. Stinks and no matter what they do it is dirty.. Engines are more expensive to work on too.
rodzilla123 All-Star Author San Diego Posts:940 Points:288,605 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:44:52 AM Ignore rodzilla123 Report Abuse Like most things in life, its a choice and a toss-up. Better mileage, stronger built, longer lasting engines, or a 3 year throw-away.
14of45SSR Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:2,112 Points:474,280 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:37:47 AM Ignore 14of45SSR Report Abuse Diesel fuel is less likely to change from day to day like gasoline seems to do! Well around here anyway!
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,668 Points:1,034,665 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:35:32 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse In southern Calif. diesel is cheaper than gasoline
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:3,626 Points:1,342,540 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:21:07 AM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse They cost to much plus the fuel is at least 30 cents a gallon more.
beachbumCA Champion Author Riverside Posts:4,069 Points:767,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:12:33 AM Ignore beachbumCA Report Abuse With this new health care, just give up driving.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:5,749 Points:1,503,385 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 2:09:25 AM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse Remember when diesel fuel was cheap? Remember when Clinton instituted a high diesel tax? This was during some Nafta, or health care,baloney so we wouldn't notice that everything that we touch, wear, eat, look at, smell and use just got taxed big time. Somehow it makes you realize that there is only 1 political issue. $$$$$$
sosgas All-Star Author Portland Posts:526 Points:251,910 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:59:25 AM Ignore sosgas Report Abuse OK.
bobdec Champion Author Florida Posts:4,284 Points:839,625 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:58:16 AM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Would be good if they can get the price do diesel cars and fuel down.
hwnguy Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,981 Points:647,780 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:55:56 AM Ignore hwnguy Report Abuse Hybrids
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:5,195 Points:1,767,245 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:55:15 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse I guess this means we all need to get hybrids.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,678 Points:619,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:54:57 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Clean Diesel is at least better than the Hybrid and Electric car choices out there. They are going to cost about the same and when the higher electric bills start coming in from cap and trade, they will probably costs less to operate. Take note that the person offering up these degrading remarks about clean diesel is the senior editor for the "green car advisor". Pretty expected comments coming from him.
leeso1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,664 Points:440,080 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:50:03 AM Ignore leeso1 Report Abuse I'd like to see a hybrid diesel!
Edtx2009 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,301 Points:267,665 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:44:38 AM Ignore Edtx2009 Report Abuse 40 MPG on the highway sounds good.